Kenzu
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:49 am

A really nice update, but miss 3 things.

1. Combing (that's what it is called in Cura) - A feature try not to cross permitters when moving from one point to another. (Less blobs and strings, but a little slower move because of the deroute)
2. maybe a bug. When I switch from fine to normal in simple mode, it does not remember my layer height setting. ie. 0.15 in fine and 0.25 in normal. It jumps back to 0.17 in fine.
3. honeycomb fill (with round corners like KISSlicer)

Please fix those 3 things and I will bee soo happy not to switch between slicer anymore.

Thanks

Jesper

davew_tx
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:47 pm

i downloaded the 2.0, did some slicing and am having an issue with hosting the file.

slicing goes well, and any file from 2.0 will host from 1.1.5 or older versions, but it hangs up when hosted in 2.0.

i have a newish M2, 16 step Rambo.

It hangs right after I go off the edge and purge, then it goes to the start point, moves about 2mm and stops indefinitely.

I've been looking around the settings, and don't see the issue.
i have my temps stabilized before I run the program.
I've looked into the g-code and it seems Ok.
I've attach the g-code and wonder if someone could host it on an M2 using Creator2.0

Rebooted both my computer and Rambo several times.

Any ideas?
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dalew8abz
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:12 pm

davew_tx,

Well, I didn't see anything OBVIOUS.

Here's the end of Creator's header:
.......
; retractionOozeRate,100
; onlyWipeOutlines,1
Here are the first few things it sends:
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
M82 ; absolute extrusion distances
G21 ; set units to millimeters
M106 S0
M104 S226 T0
M109 S226 T0
M104 S226 T0 sets the extruder temperature setpoint to 226 C. M109 makes the printer wait for temperature to stabilize before continuing. Makes sense, because the header has:
; temperatureSetpointTemperatures,226
; temperatureStabilizeAtStartup,1
Next is your 'start g-code':
G28 ; home all axes
G1 Y50 F9600 ; move forward to avoid binder clips
G1 X205 ; move off platform
G92 E0 ; zero extruder
G1 E15 F225 ; purge nozzle
G92 E0 ; zero extruder
G1 X190 F1200 ; slow wipe
Note that there's a blank line in the G-code at this point. The system should tolerate it, but you may want to edit your start G-code and remove extra blank lines at the end of it, just in case that's the stopping point.

Now we reset the extruder "zero point", retract 0.5 mm of filament:
G92 E0
G1 E-0.5 F1200
Then set up the tool to Tool 0 (Extruder):
; layer 1, Z = 0.2375
T0
; tool H0.25 W0.503
and do a rapid to the starting position:
G0 X77.132 Y113.776 F15000
Now position Z for the first layer, return the filament to position zero (undo the retract), then re-zero the extruder position:
G0 Z0.237 F1200
G1 E0 F360
G92 E0
and do the first couple lines of filament:
G1 X78.359 Y113.202 E0.0637 F3300
G1 X79.667 Y112.849 E0.1274
Now, I've seen the retract done differently in the past. Previously, I've seen the extruder position set to 0.5 with G92, then extrude to position zero (retract) with G1 E0, do the rapid, then extrude back to position 0.5 with G1, then reset the extruder with G92 E0 ---- rather than extruding to "-0.5".

How far along does it get before stopping? Are any lines of filament extruded onto the bed?

Dale

davew_tx
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:30 am

it moves about 2mm. just barely even noticeable.

it executes all the startup fine from what I can see.

I wonder if an M2 owner will try the file.

Other than the freeze on printing, the jogs and temps all control the machine as expected.

FWIW: i printed a corkscrewed Pink Panther and achieved the best surface finish ever. attached.
Using 1.1.5 host, it did fair in the crotch, less so on the top of the boobs, and struggled most in the shoulder blades. single perimeter is tough on those three areas.
The lack of a seam really elevates the quality in the middle section of the torso.

Wanted: somehow corkscrew with multiple perimeters. maybe a ramp up to next layer, with a transition length. somehow achieve the results, with more loops for stronger vase prints.
below the crotch on Pink panther would be difficult because each leg is separate, so how is it handled when a single path can't be followed.
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:59 pm

dave, concerning the spiral feature. your absolutely right. its not for every model and has limited use.....right now. im sure over time it will be improved upon. you can see single wall with no infill just doesnt work in your model up around the shoulders. you can see right through it because each line steps over too much. currently the feature is only really for semi straight walled items like vases.

davew_tx
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:19 pm

so, i tried 2.0.0 on another machine, and same thing.
it is a RAMBO based custom.

i got it past the freeze by hitting Force Next and yes to the prompt.

all is well now.

not sure why it hangs.

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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:47 pm

Dave,

Next time you go to print, check the "Verbose" box right before you start. When it stops, tell it to force next, and when it's going again, uncheck the Verbose box. Then copy out the contents of the communications log window. That should tell us where it hangs.

Dale

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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:30 pm

here is the code.
I have a 2X scale Lisa skull in this instance.

i wonder if it's a USB cable, but then why would the 1.1.5 work>?

(i know 250 is a high temperature for PLA, but my machine and this plastic seem best there)

SENT: G90
SENT: M82
SENT: G21
SENT: M106 S242
SENT: M104 S250
SENT: M109 S250
RECEIVED: ok T:249.8 /250.0 B:60.2 /60.0 @:29
SENT: G28
RECEIVED: ok T:249.8 /250.0 B:60.3 /60.0 @:30
RECEIVED: ok T:249.7 /250.0 B:60.3 /60.0 @:31
SENT: M104 S250
RECEIVED: ok
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: M109 S250
RECEIVED: ok
SENT:
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G92 E0
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 E-0.5 F1200
RECEIVED: T:249.1 E:0 W:8
RECEIVED: T:249.9 E:0 W:7
RECEIVED: T:249.4 E:0 W:6
RECEIVED: T:250.0 E:0 W:5
RECEIVED: T:249.7 E:0 W:4
RECEIVED: T:250.1 E:0 W:3
RECEIVED: T:249.5 E:0 W:2
RECEIVED: T:250.2 E:0 W:1
RECEIVED: T:249.3 E:0 W:0
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: M105
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: M105
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G0 Z1.27 F1200
RECEIVED: T:248.5 E:0 W:8
RECEIVED: T:249.1 E:0 W:7
RECEIVED: T:247.5 E:0 W:6
RECEIVED: T:249.1 E:0 W:5
RECEIVED: T:249.7 E:0 W:4
RECEIVED: T:249.5 E:0 W:3
RECEIVED: T:249.4 E:0 W:2
RECEIVED: T:250.0 E:0 W:1
RECEIVED: T:249.6 E:0 W:0
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: M105
SENT: T0
RECEIVED: ok
RECEIVED: ok
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G0 X275.939 Y133.293 F6000
RECEIVED: ok T:250.2 /250.0 B:59.8 /60.0 @:48
RECEIVED: ok T:250.2 /250.0 B:59.8 /60.0 @:48
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G0 Z0.27 F1200
RECEIVED: ok T:250.2 /250.0 B:59.8 /60.0 @:48
SENT: G1 E0 F360
RECEIVED: ok
RECEIVED: echo:Active Extruder: 0
Active Extruder: 0
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G92 E0
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X277.293 Y130.707 E0.1525 F2700
RECEIVED: ok
RECEIVED: ok
WARNING: Firmware unresponsive. Attempting to force continue...
SENT: M105
SENT: G1 X278.737 Y128.265 E0.3007
RECEIVED: ok T:250.5 /250.0 B:59.8 /60.0 @:39
SENT: G1 X280.204 Y125.988 E0.4422
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X281.623 Y123.906 E0.5739
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X282.953 Y122.014 E0.6947
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X284.237 Y120.266 E0.808
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X285.499 Y118.65 E0.9151
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X286.761 Y117.156 E1.0173
RECEIVED: ok
SENT: G1 X288.047 Y115.777 E1.1158
RECEIVED: ok

Clayton
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:56 am

Dave,

Any chance you have some extra lines at the end of your starting G-Code script? It looks like there are a few extra empty lines being sent so I would make sure to remove those extra carriage returns.

In any event, we will be releasing a minor update shortly that will include better handling for these types of issues

tmccafferty
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Re: Found 2.0.0 in the downloads last night

Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:04 pm

I had a notice of the new version when I started up Creator this afternoon.

Unfortunately, they still have not invested effort in documenting their product. I couldn't even get the quick start guide to pull up. I hate to rant, but I really can't believe in a company that invests all their efforts in new "features", but doesn't explain the details of how to take advantage of these cool features.

Maybe it's all obvious to you guys, but not to me..... If it was freeware, that would be different. I will never recommend this product to anyone until they clean up their documentation. :(

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