michaellabonte
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Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetier

Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:14 pm

Well first let me apologize ahead of time for the long post but this is very relevant as I've noticed a specific issue relating to Simplify3d. The part / file was created in Sketchup, checked with Solid Inspector 2 - no errors, exported as an .stl (ascii format).

Before I go further let me say I am using a Smoothieboard with Webui. No problems up to now, but with this file it worked in repetier slicer, than it was uploaded to the webserver and printed. The file was than sliced in simplify3d uploaded and the file will not print.

Clearly there is something going on with the slicer itself as everything else is the same.

The controller is actually holding the file on a microsd card attached to the controller itself. Again I am using the WEB server and printing through that.

As we speak the repetier host slicer .gcode is working flawlessly. The .gcode for simplify3d will not even start.

Again this is for Smoothieware / Smoothieboard webserver interface.

Considering simplify3d is suppose to be the bees knees, its kind of upsetting for a free program to work and simplify3d not....

CompoundCarl
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Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:04 am

It's easy to setup any of those programs incorrectly and have them not work. So you just need to make sure you have your settings right first.

What printer are you using? Have you compared the gcode files from both programs to see if there's something different in the beginning of the file?

wirlybird
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Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:34 pm

Another FYI, I have found Sketchup's output to STL can be problematic. I stopped using it because of issues with the output. Not that this is your issue though!

KC_703
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Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:42 pm

OP - can you post a SKP? I've rarely had manifold issues after using Solid Inspector 2... I also like FredoTools "AutoReverseFaces" and CleanUp3.

Regarding tool setup, in the STL export tool: "Export Geometry Only" selected, Millimeters and ASCII

michaellabonte
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Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:20 pm

I will check the gcode files later this evening - just back from camping (labor day weekend), I will update later this evening.

michaellabonte
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Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:46 am

Sorry about the super long post but there are two sections below highlighting the gcode - there are differences but not really sure what the problem is as I'm not really all that familiar with gcode troubleshooting.

This S3D gcode does not print via the webserver.

; G-Code generated by Simplify3D(R) Version 3.1.0
; Sep 2, 2016 at 8:56:52 PM
; Settings Summary
; processName,Ecubmaker - SmoothieWare - single process
; applyToModels,ecubmaker - mks tft rev 01
; profileName,Ecubmaker - Smoothieware -single process (modified)
; profileVersion,2016-08-31 21:38:22
; baseProfile,Default
; printMaterial,PLA
; printQuality,Medium
; printExtruders,
; extruderName,Extruder 1
; extruderToolheadNumber,0
; extruderDiameter,0.4
; extruderAutoWidth,1
; extruderWidth,0.48
; extrusionMultiplier,1
; extruderUseRetract,1
; extruderRetractionDistance,1.2
; extruderExtraRestartDistance,0
; extruderRetractionZLift,0
; extruderRetractionSpeed,1500
; extruderUseCoasting,1
; extruderCoastingDistance,0
; extruderUseWipe,1
; extruderWipeDistance,2
; primaryExtruder,0
; layerHeight,0.2
; topSolidLayers,4
; bottomSolidLayers,4
; perimeterOutlines,4
; printPerimetersInsideOut,1
; startPointOption,2
; startPointOriginX,0
; startPointOriginY,0
; startPointOriginZ,300
; sequentialIslands,1
; spiralVaseMode,0
; firstLayerHeightPercentage,90
; firstLayerWidthPercentage,100
; firstLayerUnderspeed,0.4
; useRaft,0
; raftExtruder,0
; raftLayers,3
; raftOffset,5
; raftSeparationDistance,0.3
; raftInfill,90
; disableRaftBaseLayers,1
; useSkirt,1
; skirtExtruder,0
; skirtLayers,1
; skirtOutlines,3
; skirtOffset,8
; usePrimePillar,0
; primePillarExtruder,999
; primePillarWidth,12
; primePillarLocation,7
; primePillarSpeedMultiplier,1
; useOozeShield,0
; oozeShieldExtruder,999
; oozeShieldOffset,2
; oozeShieldOutlines,1
; oozeShieldSidewallShape,1
; oozeShieldSidewallAngle,30
; oozeShieldSpeedMultiplier,1
; infillExtruder,0
; internalInfillPattern,Rectilinear
; externalInfillPattern,Rectilinear
; infillPercentage,25
; outlineOverlapPercentage,15
; infillExtrusionWidthPercentage,100
; minInfillLength,5
; infillLayerInterval,1
; infillAngles,45,-45
; overlapInfillAngles,0
; generateSupport,1
; supportExtruder,0
; supportInfillPercentage,30
; supportExtraInflation,0
; denseSupportLayers,0
; denseSupportInfillPercentage,50
; supportLayerInterval,1
; supportHorizontalPartOffset,0.4
; supportUpperSeparationLayers,3
; supportLowerSeparationLayers,3
; supportType,0
; supportGridSpacing,4
; maxOverhangAngle,45
; supportAngles,0
; temperatureName,Extruder 1 Temperature,Heated Bed
; temperatureNumber,0,0
; temperatureSetpointCount,1,2
; temperatureSetpointLayers,1,1,3
; temperatureSetpointTemperatures,225,75,60
; temperatureStabilizeAtStartup,1,1
; temperatureHeatedBed,0,1
; temperatureRelayBetweenLayers,0,0
; temperatureRelayBetweenLoops,0,0
; fanLayers,1,3
; fanSpeeds,100,100
; blipFanToFullPower,0
; adjustSpeedForCooling,1
; minSpeedLayerTime,15
; minCoolingSpeedSlowdown,20
; increaseFanForCooling,0
; minFanLayerTime,45
; maxCoolingFanSpeed,100
; increaseFanForBridging,0
; bridgingFanSpeed,100
; use5D,1
; relativeEdistances,0
; allowEaxisZeroing,1
; independentExtruderAxes,0
; includeM10123,0
; stickySupport,1
; applyToolheadOffsets,0
; gcodeXoffset,50
; gcodeYoffset,0
; gcodeZoffset,-0.25
; overrideMachineDefinition,1
; machineTypeOverride,0
; strokeXoverride,230
; strokeYoverride,150
; strokeZoverride,150
; originOffsetXoverride,0
; originOffsetYoverride,0
; originOffsetZoverride,0
; homeXdirOverride,-1
; homeYdirOverride,-1
; homeZdirOverride,-1
; flipXoverride,1
; flipYoverride,-1
; flipZoverride,1
; toolheadOffsets,0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0
; overrideFirmwareConfiguration,1
; firmwareTypeOverride,RepRap (Marlin/Repetier/Sprinter)
; GPXconfigOverride,r2
; baudRateOverride,250000
; overridePrinterModels,0
; printerModelsOverride
; startingGcode,G28; Home XYZ,,,
; layerChangeGcode,
; retractionGcode,
; toolChangeGcode,
; endingGcode,G1 E-1 F300 ; retract filament 1mm (ooze prevention),G28 Y0 ; Home the Y Axis,G28 X0 ; Home the X Axis,G90 ; Absolute Positioning,M104 S0 ; turn off extruder,M140 S0 ; turn off bed,M84 ; disable motors,M502 (Returns the Factory {Unity} Matrix ,,
; exportFileFormat,gcode
; celebration,0
; celebrationSong,Random Song
; postProcessing,
; defaultSpeed,2400
; outlineUnderspeed,0.5
; solidInfillUnderspeed,0.8
; supportUnderspeed,0.8
; rapidXYspeed,3600
; rapidZspeed,1002
; minBridgingArea,12
; bridgingExtraInflation,0
; bridgingExtrusionMultiplier,1.5
; bridgingSpeedMultiplier,2.5
; filamentDiameter,1.75
; filamentPricePerKg,30
; filamentDensity,1.25
; useMinPrintHeight,0
; minPrintHeight,0.8
; useMaxPrintHeight,0
; maxPrintHeight,0.6
; useDiaphragm,0
; diaphragmLayerInterval,20
; robustSlicing,1
; mergeAllIntoSolid,0
; onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline,1
; retractBetweenLayers,1
; useRetractionMinTravel,0
; retractionMinTravel,3
; retractWhileWiping,0
; onlyWipeOutlines,1
; avoidCrossingOutline,0
; maxMovementDetourFactor,3
; toolChangeRetractionDistance,12
; toolChangeExtraRestartDistance,-0.5
; toolChangeRetractionSpeed,600
; allowThinWallGapFill,1
; thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage,10
; horizontalSizeCompensation,0
G90
M82
M106 S255
M140 S75
M190 S75
M104 S225 T0
M109 S225 T0
G28; Home XYZ
G92 E0
G1 E-1.2000 F1500
G1 Z-0.070 F1002
; layer 1, Z = 0.18
T0
; tool H0.200 W0.480
; skirt
G1 X107.383 Y51.007 F3600
G1 E0.0000 F450
G92 E0
G1 X112.407 Y45.983 E0.2836 F960
G1 X112.848 Y45.800 E0.3026
G1 X217.153 Y45.800 E4.4657
G1 X217.594 Y45.983 E4.4847
G1 X222.618 Y51.007 E4.7683
G1 X222.801 Y51.448 E4.7873
G1 X222.801 Y98.552 E6.6674
G1 X222.618 Y98.993 E6.6864
G1 X217.594 Y104.017 E6.9700
G1 X217.153 Y104.200 E6.9891
G1 X112.848 Y104.200 E11.1521
G1 X112.407 Y104.017 E11.1712
G1 X107.383 Y98.993 E11.4547
G1 X107.200 Y98.552 E11.4738
G1 X107.200 Y51.448 E13.3538
G1 X107.383 Y51.007 E13.3729
G1 X107.790 Y51.278 F3600
G92 E0
G1 X112.679 Y46.390 E0.2759 F960
G1 X112.943 Y46.280 E0.2874
G1 X217.058 Y46.280 E4.4428
G1 X217.322 Y46.390 E4.4542

(Continues on and on...)



Next is the Slic3r gcode which prints perfectly via the webserver


; generated by Slic3r 1.2.9 on 2016-09-03 at 01:00:22

; external perimeters extrusion width = 0.40mm
; perimeters extrusion width = 0.48mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.48mm
; solid infill extrusion width = 0.48mm
; top infill extrusion width = 0.48mm
; support material extrusion width = 0.40mm

M107
M190 S75 ; set bed temperature
M104 S225 ; set temperature
G28 ; home all axes


M109 S225 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G21 ; set units to millimeters
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G92 E0
G1 Z0.150 F3600.000
G1 E-2.00000 F2400.00000
G92 E0
G1 X100.040 Y39.078 F3600.000
G1 E2.00000 F2400.00000
G1 X100.717 Y37.346 E2.18765 F1200.000
G1 X101.019 Y36.744 E2.25569
G1 X102.635 Y34.407 E2.54253
G1 X104.836 Y32.610 E2.82938
G1 X107.450 Y31.495 E3.11623
G1 X110.086 Y31.146 E3.38468
G1 X218.728 Y31.146 E14.35214
G1 X220.205 Y31.254 E14.50159
G1 X221.692 Y31.473 E14.65342 F1200.000
G1 X224.418 Y32.276 E14.94027


(Continues on and on...)

dorsai3d
Posts: 237
Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:01 am

Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:51 am

Could it have something to do with your big Z-offset in Simplify3D and not in slic3r? Your S3D gcode starts at Z-0.07 and slic3r starts at Z+0.12. Could be smashing the nozzle into the bed or tripping some firmware safeties to prevent exactly that.

michaellabonte
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:02 pm

Re: Sketchup file - solid inspector 2 - Simplify3d - Repetie

Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:11 pm

The same settings work for any print I download from thingiverse. Its only if I create an object and export the stl into S3D and than save to disk.

Really strange...

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