EricPeterson
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Very High Quality Build Raft For ABS Adhesion

I kept running into the USB timeout issue on my PC when printing a large, complex piece on a raft. Moreover, I couldn't get my USB firmware settings to stay sticky because the hub driver is glitchy. I'm using a single extruder Makergear M2.

And then even when I remembered to change the hub's driver's defaults, I found that the raft was prone to problems. First, no matter how dense I set the raft, the first layer was still striped every other row, which reduced adhesion to the kapton taped platform. Second, even if I disabled the first layer, the subsequent layers set down would be a little uneven, prone to peeling and a bit too much texture underneath, which in turn reduced adhesion. Third, I couldn't figure out -- maybe I'm just missing this -- a way to make subsequent raft layers use passes in different directions. So even if I laid down half a dozen 100% layers, they'd all be at the same orientation. This doesn't affect adhesion directly, but what it does do is give the raft too much directional strength. It becomes quite strong and resistant to deformation in one direction, but deforms quite easily in the other. This allows it to pull up along corners and edges when a support matrix begins to warp too strongly near a weak point.

I tried hair spray and solvent/plastic solutions on the kapton. I still got support columns pulling up at corners and at the ends of long rows. I've already been in the habit of wiping down the tape every print with 91% alcohol -- which helps quite a lot -- but I was seeing too many failures related to support structures pulling off the platform.

What I needed, I reasoned, was a way to make a raft perfectly smooth 100% on the build surface the same way the printer makes geometry to guarantee perfect adhesion ....

I realized I was being stupid. I started adding geometry to each STL export designed to provide a raft structure but without raft limitations. I obtain the best results when setting the geometry-raft to a thickness that equates to the number of top layers plus the number of bottom layers, so there's no grid filling. For example, if you're using four top and four bottom layers with a basic layer thickness of 0.08 mm, your geometry-raft would be .64 mm thick. The printer lays down the geometry-raft nice and tight on the platform, and you have full control over it because it's geometry, not a raft.

With some experience, I began to build geometry-rafts with apertures so pieces with bottoms I wanted to form on the build surface sat through the raft on the build surface directly, allowing the software to fill the intervening volumes with support. This also facilitates separation.

Yes, cleanup times are increased, and it can be difficult to separate geometry-raft and geometry when the separation is small. Yes, it burns some time and ABS. However, I'm routinely getting perfect 1/18 automotive bodies with zero separation from the platform and zero unexpected deformation. In fact, I generally have to pry the part off the build platform with a razor blade. Even after cooling, the parts are stuck too securely to the kapton to remove easily.

It's important that the geometry-raft have large radius corners, avoiding any stress concentration at a corner as shrinking support structure tries to pull up the raft.

Examples from my modeler follow.

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JoeJ
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Re: Very High Quality Build Raft For ABS Adhesion

First of all, I would strongly recommend that you print from the SD card instead of USB. You will always get much more reliable prints from the SD card. There's also an added performance benefit of lower latency which can even improve the surface finish in sharp turns. Make the change, and you'll be happy you did!

If for some reason you absolutely insist on printing over USB, then make sure you purchase a high quality USB cable with a ferrite collar or something similar for good noise reduction. A new high-quality cable can make a lot of difference. You may also want to go to Tools --> Firmware Configuration, select Communication tab, and increase the "communication timeout" setting at the bottom to maybe 30sec since you mentioned it was timing out on long slow moves on the first layer of the raft
EricPeterson
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Joined: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:46 am

Re: Very High Quality Build Raft For ABS Adhesion

Thanks for the feedback.

All of my USB cables are premium, gold contacts, with noise reducers -- some with active noise reduction! I keep all connector types on hand for data collection and sensor integration, too... so no cheapies here.

I made that change in the S3D tools panel. I'm getting timeouts on the PC side, too, attributable to what must be a buggy hub driver. I can't identify any updates, and I've never had to mess with it before because most of my USB issues are because things are happening too fast, not too slow.

At some point we'll be moving to SD card printing when there are more printers and stand-alone flat panels -- but there's no pressing need yet. Tooling that comes off the printer during the day isn't dependent upon very high q surface finish -- I have noticed latency in some sweeps and corners, particularly in complex variable radii curves -- and projects like the above that run at night are going to get filled and sanded/detailed anyway ... so no issues. In general I'm getting wildly better quality than I had expected, better in fact that from a traditional liquid resin STL machine.

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