slipshine
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Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:27 pm

Machine Stopping

I am using Creator 1.1.2 64 bit . I am using windows 7 64 bit with AMD quad core processor.

We have dicussed in the forum at great length creator stopping in the middle of prints.
See Forum : http://forum.simplify3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=39

With the 64 bit version it seems to be back in force. Typically any print over 3 hours will fail with my setup.
from reading others posts like http://forum.simplify3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=125
it seems it is the same problem that existed from the beginning. It has been better with some versions than others or it could just be the parts I am currently making.

I know that I can put it on a sd card and have no issues but that doesnt help find the problems. In the past the problem seemed to be worse with the AMD systems.

I dont want to seem ungreatfull for the software. This product slices like the wind. But the communication seems to be a consistant problem.

I would say the software does a better job of slicing poor models than anything else I have used but I feel you need to make it more clear it will not fix a bad model.

I have uploaded a few models with problems for review not because I need help getting them to print but so you have troubled files to work with for product improvement.
As many of these are thingiverse files the option to redraw is limited. I dont want to take up your time on a specific problem I just want to give meanigfull feed back on problems so they can be resolved in future release.
Simplify3D
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Re: Machine Stopping

Nothing has been changed with the serial communication for awhile. You could always try to install the 32-bit version on your machine if that happens to perform better. You could also look into increasing the serial receive buffer on your Arduino which gives more error tolerance. Anything compiled with Arduino IDE 1.0 or higher I think is stuck with the 63 byte value, but you can double this to 127 if you compile your firmware in earlier versions. This is specific to your individual microcontroller though, so make sure to read up on that specific unit before changing that setting (found at Tools > Firmware Configuration). If you choose too high of a value, you should know pretty quickly ;)

If this happens again, please type cachestatus into the command window and press send. Then copy and paste the output here. You can also try using the Force Next button to force the build to continue to the next command. USB serial communication on these microcontrollers actually comes with a prescribed error rate since the transmission is nowhere near perfect. The datasheet has tables listing the error rates as a function of baud rate and clock speed and anything under 2.0% is considered acceptable. This is why we typically suggest that any build longer than ~30 minutes should probably be run directly from the SD card. It takes 5 seconds to copy to the card and you save yourself a lot of headaches since you don't have to worry about serial communications getting corrupted. Things like EM interference, cable length, ferrite beads, etc can all make a difference here.
slipshine
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:27 pm

Re: Machine Stopping

This will be my last post on the communication / Machine control panel Issues.

It has been repeatedly brought up by several users there are communication problems.
Running from the SD works but it does not change the fact that a problem exists. It is a band aid.
I have a factory built Makergear M2 running with the original firmware as there is no need to change it.
This is demonstrated by the fact I can use Repeter Host to send files with NO issues. The same computer, cables @ firmware you say is suspect.
When using Repeter Host I can use your software without interrupting or pausing the printer another problem that other have complained about.

So for now Fix it in Net FAB Slice it in Creator print it with Repeter. Not exactly 1 program does it all.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.

Oh yeah you really need to loose the Jog wheel it Is really quite horrible.
I Program setup and run 9 axis CNC equipment and I get where you were trying to go
but you don't move the cnc handle with a mouse.

If you want to discuss further or have me test something I am available to PM

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