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Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:02 pm

1) Have tried various Advanced setting changes to improve thin wall printing with no visible change.

2) Profile attached.

3) Print image attached.

4) Machine Specifications::
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
SeeMeCNC Rostock MAX v2 latest Arm, Carriage, and Hot End upgrades
EZRstruder Upgrade
HE280 Hot End
Nozzle ID stamped: 0.5mm
Simplify 3D v4.0.1
Rambo Firmware Repetier 091S
24 Volt 20 Ampere Main Power Supply
Switching Buck Converter to supply Rambo 12 Volt power
6mm thick 6061-T6 Aluminum Build Platform
300 Watt 24 Volt Silicone Round Heater Pad
Solid State Relay to control Heater Pad 24 Volt from Rambo Build Platform Heater Output
Kapton Build Surface

Q: Any suggestions for Settings to change for improved print Top Layer sealing?
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horst.w
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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:05 am

A FFF-Profil doesn't replace a FACTORY-File!
A factory contains also the STL of the model and this is needed to find out the reason.

Nevertheless try out to set INFILL >>> Minimum Infill Length down to zero (now 1 mm).

You are using version 4.01. If I remember right, this version was a little bit faulty and was replaced by version 4.1 and now we have 4.1.2 (and hopefully waiting to version 5 ;-) )

horst.w
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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:42 pm

No answer is also an answer!

I have found this here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14061&p=53135#p53135

You are well knowing what a factory file is, but you avoid to show it.
If you are using a cracked version such like "Licensed for God", than it wasn't a good idea to ask here for help!

Over and out.
H.

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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:18 pm

Dear Horst;

Thank you for your helpful reply!

"A FFF-Profil doesn't replace a FACTORY-File!
A factory contains also the STL of the model and this is needed to find out the reason."

I have read that the S3D Terms of Service prohibit publicly posting Factory Files, and that specific queries of S3D on this issue were not definitively resolved. Did I misunderstand what I read, or was it just inaccurate?

Can you shed any light on this matter?

"Nevertheless try out to set INFILL >>> Minimum Infill Length down to zero (now 1 mm)."

We tried from 5mm down to 2 then to the 1 reflected in our Profile with no visible improvement. I'll go take that further step now and report back here. Thanks for motivating me ;)

"You are using version 4.01. If I remember right, this version was a little bit faulty and was replaced by version 4.1 and now we have 4.1.2 (and hopefully waiting to version 5 ;-) )"

Our Machine Specifications text was incorrect - the tests were all made using S3d V4.1.2 :(

Again, thanks for your courteous and helpful response!

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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:16 pm

Dear Horst;

"Nevertheless try out to set INFILL >>> Minimum Infill Length down to zero (now 1 mm)."

Checking with my associate revealed that we had indeed tried the 0.00mm Minimum Infill Length setting.

Thanks!

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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:09 am

MakerTech LLC wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:18 pm


I have read that the S3D Terms of Service prohibit publicly posting Factory Files, and that specific queries of S3D on this issue were not definitively resolved. Did I misunderstand what I read, or was it just inaccurate?

Can you shed any light on this matter?

The restriction is only available for those factory-files when copyrights of the models are concerned.

H.

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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:21 am

This post SHOULD now provide all data needed to diagnose the problem previously described:

1) Machine hardware/software inventory attached;
2) Closeup image of defective print attached;
3) Factory file of print in image attached

Any assistance appreciated.

Machine hardware/software inventory
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
• SeeMeCNC Rostock MAX v2 latest Arm, Carriage, and Hot End upgrades
• EZRstruder Upgrade
• HE280 Hot End
• Nozzle ID stamped: 0.5mm
• Simplify 3D v4.1.2
• Rambo Firmware Repetier 091S
• 24 Volt 20 Ampere Main Power Supply
• Switching Buck Converter to supply Rambo with 12 Volt power
• 6mm thick 6061-T6 Aluminum Build Platform
• Kapton Build Surface
• 300 Watt 24 Volt Silicone Round Heater Pad
• Solid State Relay to control Heater Pad 24 Volt from Rambo Build Platform Heater Output
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dkightley
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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:14 am

All that was needed was the factory file. Everything else was a waste of time!

I spent two or three minutes tweaking the bottom profile in the list....and it will probably print okay now.
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Re: Thin walls not Infilling and Top Layers not sealing

Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:28 am

Thanks, Doug.

Turns out I *STILL* didn't supply enough data - we don't use the bottom profile for that print, but the one near the middle named "ABS 50% on 2 50% fan".

Can you list and describe what tweaks you made?

Your assistance is most appreciated!

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