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Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:05 pm
by xnaron
What cases this squiggly wall on the 3dbenchy. Infill is set to 0%. See attached profile.
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:28 pm
by S3D-Jake
Can you please attach your factory file (Save Factory File As...)?
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:11 pm
by xnaron
It won't let me it says file too large. 4,407 KB is the size.
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 pm
by xnaron
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:28 am
by parallyze
xnaron wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 pm
I put it on my google drive
xnaron wrote:
What cases this squiggly wall on the 3dbenchy. Infill is set to 0%. See attached profile.
For some reason S3D is adding some infill for top/bottom layers on the inside of overhangs pretty fast.
You can change the amount of top/bottom layers and/or extrusion width/perimeter count to see some differences:
There's so many perimeters and so much overlap, I wonder why those parts of solid infill need to be there. On some
objects this can add a lot of print time without real benefits...

Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:40 am
by parallyze
FWIW, this was also different in previous versions of S3D (<4.1):
Factory file from xnaron in S3D v4.0:
Same file/settings in S3D v4.1.2:
Reducing bottom layers from 5 down to 3 avoids this in 4.0 (v4.1.2 needs bottom layers set to 1):
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:12 pm
by mrbodiddley
Hi there
I've just replyed to another older thread here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11780&e=1&view=unread#p57387
I'm using 4.1.2 as well and can't find a consitent way to work around this. With some objects it works by having nbr of bottom=perimeter, with others it has no effect. The uppside-down recommendation from above thread does also not work with all objects.
Did anyone reach out to support of S3D about this yet? I would if no one did so far.
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:34 am
by S3D-Alex
I think we have a couple other threads where this is covered in more detail so I have included the links below:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14020
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13796
Basically when you are printing surfaces at an angle they create a stairstep. Each step of the stairs is a top or bottom of the part so it must satisfy the Top and Bottom Layer Settings you have. Dkightley does a great job describing this with his diagrams in the second link I included above.
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:55 am
by dkightley
I think this post of mine tells the story behind this issue :
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14020&start=10
Re: Squiggly interior wall in front of inside perimeter on 3dBenchy
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:46 pm
by mrbodiddley
Thank you guys - Trying to get my head around your explenations.
I'm trying to understand what the above and the graphs you guys created (
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13796&p=52184#p52168) mean for the model I use as an example.
In the cross section view I cant seem to see what you are explaining. What am I missing? Is it coincidence this starts building up where bridging happens on the outermost perimeter?
This is the factory file: