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[ADDED] Ironing in V5

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:24 pm
by siemslikelynn
Do we have a timeline on Ironing?

I know there's another thread but the weight of it (bogged down by 5 years) was too much for me. We know it isn't in V5, ok I accept that, but now I'd like to know if there is any development roadmap for it at least.

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:57 pm
by siemslikelynn
*bump* seems like a simple question...

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:53 am
by gearsawe
This actually can be done now. With 2 processes duplicate the first
On second "iron" zero out
Layer >>Bottom Solid Layer
Layer >>Outline Perimeters
Additions >> Skirt Layers
Additions >>Rafter off
Infill >> Infill Percentage
Infill >> Solid Infill Threshold Area
Support >> Support to Aligned
Support >> Infill Percentage
Layer >> First layer height add 0.01mm to ensure it prints after the model top layer.

as for the Extruder > Extrusion Multiplier set this to a small value so very little is extruded.
Infill External Pattern Rotation to 90 deg
Extrusion width to Manual and 0.1
set the Extrusion Multiplier 0.1
Also in the Layer>> Horizontal Outer /Inner Size Compensation set to at least -.5 to keep the nozzle from the edge.

the result should be only top layer showing for the second process. and extrude very little material. This is basically what ironing is doing in cura.
You will also get some warning about about overlapping processes when you print.
preview the iron process first to ensure you only see Top layers don't want to miss anything which should not be printing
Ensure the Model Process is first then the Iron second

So this could be easy to implement just what choices would you want for ironing?
the only thing lacking is monolithic fill
Here is my first try at ironing with S3D (stopped about halfway so you can see a before after on the same part)
ironing.jpg
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Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:08 pm
by siemslikelynn
*bump* for a response to the original question.

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:34 pm
by jfkansas
In this case ironing is a crutch for your horrible print settings.
gearsawe wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:53 am This actually can be done now. With 2 processes duplicate the first
On second "iron" zero out
Layer >>Bottom Solid Layer
Layer >>Outline Perimeters
Additions >> Skirt Layers
Additions >>Rafter off
Infill >> Infill Percentage
Infill >> Solid Infill Threshold Area
Support >> Support to Aligned
Support >> Infill Percentage
Layer >> First layer height add 0.01mm to ensure it prints after the model top layer.

as for the Extruder > Extrusion Multiplier set this to a small value so very little is extruded.
Infill External Pattern Rotation to 90 deg
Extrusion width to Manual and 0.1
set the Extrusion Multiplier 0.1
Also in the Layer>> Horizontal Outer /Inner Size Compensation set to at least -.5 to keep the nozzle from the edge.

the result should be only top layer showing for the second process. and extrude very little material. This is basically what ironing is doing in cura.
You will also get some warning about about overlapping processes when you print.
preview the iron process first to ensure you only see Top layers don't want to miss anything which should not be printing
Ensure the Model Process is first then the Iron second

So this could be easy to implement just what choices would you want for ironing?
the only thing lacking is monolithic fill
Here is my first try at ironing with S3D (stopped about halfway so you can see a before after on the same part)
ironing.jpg

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:56 pm
by gearsawe
People are just complaining for no ironing option as it can be done with a bit of work if they want.

And yes if you spend time getting your setting perfected you should not need ironing.

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:47 pm
by siemslikelynn
*bump* waiting for a response to the original question

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:05 pm
by siemslikelynn
So there's a reason I made this thread, and now it's important to mention why:

This was a very easy-to-answer question thread about a feature many people are asking about. S3D-Jason is on these forums answering questions actively, and this should have been a quick one: is it in development and if so, what's the ETA.

The fact that not a single rep from this company can answer such a simple question about such a sought-after feature is really telling, and it's why people should probably avoid S3D for now. It's not that the slicer can't do good things, it's that the company gives not one shit about the customer base, and while most of us using this slicer for years already knew that from the responses (or lackthereof) we've received over the years, it was just important for me to verify that, as a company, S3D still does not give a shit.

Job done.

Thanks all

Re: Ironing in V5

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:27 am
by S3D-Jason
If you want to add a vote for the feature, please add it to the main Ironing thread at the link below:
viewtopic.php?t=8187

I don't think having a second thread for this same feature will be helpful, so let's keep tracking it using the link above.

I know the team is very interested in what features customer want to see next, so we will certainly be looking at ironing in the future as it seems to continue to be popular with everyone.

UPDATE - this feature has now been added in Version 5.1. Read more here:
https://www.simplify3d.com/products/sim ... rsion-5-1/