ptegler
Posts: 13
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:17 pm

Retracts during Vase mode???

WHY... would the Print Preview (as well as the printer in action) in V5 be doing retractions in Vase Mode?

see gcode included here....

; G-Code generated by Simplify3D(R) Version 5.0.1
; Feb 1, 2023 at 7:38:09 PM
; Settings Summary
; processName,Process 1
; targetModels,testpot1
; profileName,RR_V-Core-3 PLA
; profileVersion,2023-02-01 19:38:06
; app,S3D-Software 5.0.1
; technology,fff
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; useVaseMode,1
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; makerBotSupportMaterial,pva
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; mirrorVisualX,0
; mirrorVisualY,1
; mirrorVisualZ,0
; machineBackgroundModel,
; startingScript,;script from ratrig - https://os.ratrig.com/docs/slicers|SKEW_PROFILE LOAD=skewprofile20221031-2|; my contribution to PAM - see S3D script https://github.com/HelgeKeck/pam|MESH_CONFIG X0=[build_min_x] Y0=[build_min_y] X1=[build_max_x] Y1=[build_max_y]|START_PRINT EXTRUDER_TEMP=[extruder0_temperature] BED_TEMP=[bed0_temperature]|SET_PRESSURE_ADVANCE ADVANCE=0.115|
; preLayerChangeScript,TIMELAPSE_TAKE_FRAME
; postLayerChangeScript,
; preRetractionScript,
; postRetractionScript,
; preToolChangeScript,
; postToolChangeScript,
; processChangeScript,
; endingScript,;script from ratrig - https://os.ratrig.com/docs/slicers|TIME ... T|SET_SKEW CLEAR=1||
; postProcessingScript,
; useBridging,1
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; bridgingInfillExtraExpansion,1.00000
; bridgingExtrusionModifier,105
; bridgingSpeedModifier,105
; overrideFanSpeedForBridging,0
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; applyBridgingToPerimeters,1
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; useToolChangeRetraction,1
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; toolChangePrimeOnFirstUse,0
; toolChangeRetractAtEnd,0
; externalThinWallType,single_extrusions
; internalThinWallType,single_extrusions
; thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage,8
; singleExtrusionMinLength,1.50000
; singleExtrusionMinWidthPercentage,40
; singleExtrusionMaxWidthPercentage,200
; singleExtrusionEndpointExtensionDistance,0.70000
; onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutlines,0
; retractBetweenLayers,1
; useRetractionMinTravel,0
; retractionMinTravel,2.00000
; useRetractionMinExtrusion,0
; retractionMinExtrusion,3.00000
; retractWhileWiping,1
; wipingMode,outer_perimeter
; avoidCrossingOutlines,1
; maxMovementDetourFactor,3.00000
; openLoopSlicingBehavior,heal
; openLoopThickenWidth,0.50000
; slicingRegionRepairMode,positive
G90
M82
M106 S0 P0
;script from ratrig - https://os.ratrig.com/docs/slicers
SKEW_PROFILE LOAD=skewprofile20221031-2
; my contribution to PAM - see S3D script https://github.com/HelgeKeck/pam
MESH_CONFIG X0=48.56 Y0=48.56 X1=451.44 Y1=451.44
START_PRINT EXTRUDER_TEMP=240 BED_TEMP=60
SET_PRESSURE_ADVANCE ADVANCE=0.115
; process Process 1
; layer 1, Z = 0.3750
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S3D-Jason
Posts: 1379
Joined: Sun May 31, 2015 6:01 am

Re: Retracts during Vase mode???

It might help to post the gcode as a separate file instead of placing it all inline...

I believe vase mode only works if you have a single outline on the entire layer. If each layer has a single outline then you can slowly spiral upwards without needing to retract.

If you have multiple outlines on a single layer, then there's no way to spiral upwards without stopping and moving to one of the other outlines. It looks like your gcode has a skirt being printed in addition to the part, so that's probably 2 or more outlines right there.

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