blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

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blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

now, my heated bed settings don't seem to be doing anything.

I have set the bed to 110C within the Temperatures Tab for the Heated Build Platform

Heated Build Platform is selected and I added one setpoint for Layer 1 which I understand should keep the 110C temp during the entire print.

I also have the Nozzle Temp set to 235C for the Right Extruder also with one setpoint for Layer 1 and it does appear to be working correctly.

Am I missing something to get the heated bed to stay heated? I preheated the bed withing the Klic-N-Print onboard controls to 110C but as soon as I started the print it cooled down and is now at around 30C

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Blain
blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

if this will help, I think this is my profile.
Not really sure how to know if it has my settings or not, but I made the settings changes and then exported this profile.

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<profile name="KNP3D(right extruder)" version="2016-12-07 19:26:09" app="S3D-Software 3.1.1">
<baseProfile></baseProfile>
<printMaterial>ABS</printMaterial>
<printQuality>Medium</printQuality>
<printExtruders></printExtruders>
<extruder name="Right Extruder">
<toolheadNumber>0</toolheadNumber>
<diameter>0.4</diameter>
<autoWidth>0</autoWidth>
<width>0.4</width>
<extrusionMultiplier>1</extrusionMultiplier>
<useRetract>1</useRetract>
<retractionDistance>1</retractionDistance>
<extraRestartDistance>0</extraRestartDistance>
<retractionZLift>0</retractionZLift>
<retractionSpeed>1200</retractionSpeed>
<useCoasting>0</useCoasting>
<coastingDistance>0.2</coastingDistance>
<useWipe>0</useWipe>
<wipeDistance>5</wipeDistance>
</extruder>
<extruder name="Left Extruder">
<toolheadNumber>1</toolheadNumber>
<diameter>0.4</diameter>
<autoWidth>0</autoWidth>
<width>0.4</width>
<extrusionMultiplier>1</extrusionMultiplier>
<useRetract>1</useRetract>
<retractionDistance>1</retractionDistance>
<extraRestartDistance>0</extraRestartDistance>
<retractionZLift>0</retractionZLift>
<retractionSpeed>1200</retractionSpeed>
<useCoasting>0</useCoasting>
<coastingDistance>0.2</coastingDistance>
<useWipe>0</useWipe>
<wipeDistance>5</wipeDistance>
</extruder>
<primaryExtruder>0</primaryExtruder>
<layerHeight>0.2</layerHeight>
<topSolidLayers>3</topSolidLayers>
<bottomSolidLayers>3</bottomSolidLayers>
<perimeterOutlines>2</perimeterOutlines>
<printPerimetersInsideOut>1</printPerimetersInsideOut>
<startPointOption>2</startPointOption>
<startPointOriginX>0</startPointOriginX>
<startPointOriginY>0</startPointOriginY>
<startPointOriginZ>300</startPointOriginZ>
<sequentialIslands>0</sequentialIslands>
<spiralVaseMode>0</spiralVaseMode>
<firstLayerHeightPercentage>90</firstLayerHeightPercentage>
<firstLayerWidthPercentage>100</firstLayerWidthPercentage>
<firstLayerUnderspeed>0.5</firstLayerUnderspeed>
<useRaft>0</useRaft>
<raftExtruder>0</raftExtruder>
<raftLayers>3</raftLayers>
<raftOffset>3</raftOffset>
<raftSeparationDistance>0.14</raftSeparationDistance>
<raftInfill>85</raftInfill>
<disableRaftBaseLayers>0</disableRaftBaseLayers>
<useSkirt>1</useSkirt>
<skirtExtruder>0</skirtExtruder>
<skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
<skirtOutlines>2</skirtOutlines>
<skirtOffset>4</skirtOffset>
<usePrimePillar>0</usePrimePillar>
<primePillarExtruder>999</primePillarExtruder>
<primePillarWidth>12</primePillarWidth>
<primePillarLocation>7</primePillarLocation>
<primePillarSpeedMultiplier>1</primePillarSpeedMultiplier>
<useOozeShield>0</useOozeShield>
<oozeShieldExtruder>999</oozeShieldExtruder>
<oozeShieldOffset>2</oozeShieldOffset>
<oozeShieldOutlines>1</oozeShieldOutlines>
<oozeShieldSidewallShape>1</oozeShieldSidewallShape>
<oozeShieldSidewallAngle>30</oozeShieldSidewallAngle>
<oozeShieldSpeedMultiplier>1</oozeShieldSpeedMultiplier>
<infillExtruder>0</infillExtruder>
<internalInfillPattern>Rectilinear</internalInfillPattern>
<externalInfillPattern>Rectilinear</externalInfillPattern>
<infillPercentage>20</infillPercentage>
<outlineOverlapPercentage>20</outlineOverlapPercentage>
<infillExtrusionWidthPercentage>100</infillExtrusionWidthPercentage>
<minInfillLength>5</minInfillLength>
<infillLayerInterval>1</infillLayerInterval>
<infillAngles>45,-45</infillAngles>
<overlapInfillAngles>0</overlapInfillAngles>
<generateSupport>0</generateSupport>
<supportExtruder>0</supportExtruder>
<supportInfillPercentage>30</supportInfillPercentage>
<supportExtraInflation>0</supportExtraInflation>
<denseSupportLayers>0</denseSupportLayers>
<denseSupportInfillPercentage>70</denseSupportInfillPercentage>
<supportLayerInterval>1</supportLayerInterval>
<supportHorizontalPartOffset>0.3</supportHorizontalPartOffset>
<supportUpperSeparationLayers>1</supportUpperSeparationLayers>
<supportLowerSeparationLayers>1</supportLowerSeparationLayers>
<supportType>0</supportType>
<supportGridSpacing>4</supportGridSpacing>
<maxOverhangAngle>45</maxOverhangAngle>
<supportAngles>0</supportAngles>
<temperatureController name="Right Extruder">
<temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
<isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
<relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
<relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
<stabilizeAtStartup>0</stabilizeAtStartup>
<setpoint layer="1" temperature="230"/>
</temperatureController>
<temperatureController name="Left Extruder">
<temperatureNumber>1</temperatureNumber>
<isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
<relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
<relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
<stabilizeAtStartup>0</stabilizeAtStartup>
<setpoint layer="1" temperature="0"/>
</temperatureController>
<temperatureController name="Heated Build Platform">
<temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
<isHeatedBed>1</isHeatedBed>
<relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
<relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
<stabilizeAtStartup>0</stabilizeAtStartup>
<setpoint layer="1" temperature="110"/>
</temperatureController>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
</fanSpeed>
<blipFanToFullPower>0</blipFanToFullPower>
<adjustSpeedForCooling>1</adjustSpeedForCooling>
<minSpeedLayerTime>15</minSpeedLayerTime>
<minCoolingSpeedSlowdown>20</minCoolingSpeedSlowdown>
<increaseFanForCooling>0</increaseFanForCooling>
<minFanLayerTime>45</minFanLayerTime>
<maxCoolingFanSpeed>100</maxCoolingFanSpeed>
<increaseFanForBridging>1</increaseFanForBridging>
<bridgingFanSpeed>100</bridgingFanSpeed>
<use5D>1</use5D>
<relativeEdistances>1</relativeEdistances>
<allowEaxisZeroing>0</allowEaxisZeroing>
<independentExtruderAxes>0</independentExtruderAxes>
<includeM10123>0</includeM10123>
<stickySupport>1</stickySupport>
<applyToolheadOffsets>0</applyToolheadOffsets>
<gcodeXoffset>0</gcodeXoffset>
<gcodeYoffset>0</gcodeYoffset>
<gcodeZoffset>0</gcodeZoffset>
<overrideMachineDefinition>1</overrideMachineDefinition>
<machineTypeOverride>0</machineTypeOverride>
<strokeXoverride>150</strokeXoverride>
<strokeYoverride>150</strokeYoverride>
<strokeZoverride>228</strokeZoverride>
<originOffsetXoverride>75</originOffsetXoverride>
<originOffsetYoverride>75</originOffsetYoverride>
<originOffsetZoverride>0</originOffsetZoverride>
<homeXdirOverride>1</homeXdirOverride>
<homeYdirOverride>1</homeYdirOverride>
<homeZdirOverride>-1</homeZdirOverride>
<flipXoverride>1</flipXoverride>
<flipYoverride>-1</flipYoverride>
<flipZoverride>1</flipZoverride>
<toolheadOffsets>0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0</toolheadOffsets>
<overrideFirmwareConfiguration>1</overrideFirmwareConfiguration>
<firmwareTypeOverride>MakerBot/Sailfish Firmware</firmwareTypeOverride>
<GPXconfigOverride>r2</GPXconfigOverride>
<baudRateOverride>115200</baudRateOverride>
<overridePrinterModels>0</overridePrinterModels>
<printerModelsOverride></printerModelsOverride>
<startingGcode>; **** Replicator 1 dual start.gcode ****,M73 P0 ; enable build progress,G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum,G161 Z F1200 ; home Z minimum,G92 Z-5 ; set Z to -5,G1 Z0 ; move Z to 0,G161 Z F100 ; home Z slowly,M132 X Y Z A B ; recall home offsets,M135 T0 ; load right extruder offsets,G1 X-110 Y-70 Z30 F9000 ; move to wait position off table,G130 X20 Y20 Z20 A20 B20 ; lower stepper Vrefs while heating,M126 S[fan_speed_pwm],M140 S[bed0_temperature] T0,M134 T0 ; stabilize bed temperature,M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T0,M133 T0 ; stabilize extruder temperature,G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,G1 Z0.4 ; position nozzle,G1 E25 F300 ; purge nozzle,G1 X-95 Y-65 Z0.15 F1200 ; slow wipe,G1 X-95 Y-60 Z0.5 F1200 ; lift,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,M73 P1 ;@body (notify GPX body has started),; **** end of start.gcode ****</startingGcode>
<layerChangeGcode></layerChangeGcode>
<retractionGcode></retractionGcode>
<toolChangeGcode></toolChangeGcode>
<endingGcode>; **** Replicator 1 dual end.gcode ****,M73 P100 ; end build progress,G0 Z150 F1000 ; send Z axis to bottom of machine,M140 S0 T0 ; cool down HBP,M104 S0 T0 ; cool down right extruder,M104 S0 T1 ; cool down left extruder,M127 ; stop blower fan,G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum,M18 ; disable stepper,M72 P1 ; play Ta-Da song,; **** end of end.gcode ****</endingGcode>
<exportFileFormat>x3g</exportFileFormat>
<celebration>0</celebration>
<celebrationSong>Random Song</celebrationSong>
<postProcessing></postProcessing>
<defaultSpeed>3600</defaultSpeed>
<outlineUnderspeed>0.5</outlineUnderspeed>
<solidInfillUnderspeed>0.8</solidInfillUnderspeed>
<supportUnderspeed>0.8</supportUnderspeed>
<rapidXYspeed>4200</rapidXYspeed>
<rapidZspeed>1200</rapidZspeed>
<minBridgingArea>50</minBridgingArea>
<bridgingExtraInflation>0</bridgingExtraInflation>
<bridgingExtrusionMultiplier>1</bridgingExtrusionMultiplier>
<bridgingSpeedMultiplier>0.8</bridgingSpeedMultiplier>
<filamentDiameter>1.75</filamentDiameter>
<filamentPricePerKg>46</filamentPricePerKg>
<filamentDensity>1.25</filamentDensity>
<useMinPrintHeight>0</useMinPrintHeight>
<minPrintHeight>0</minPrintHeight>
<useMaxPrintHeight>0</useMaxPrintHeight>
<maxPrintHeight>0</maxPrintHeight>
<useDiaphragm>0</useDiaphragm>
<diaphragmLayerInterval>20</diaphragmLayerInterval>
<robustSlicing>1</robustSlicing>
<mergeAllIntoSolid>0</mergeAllIntoSolid>
<onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline>1</onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline>
<retractBetweenLayers>1</retractBetweenLayers>
<useRetractionMinTravel>0</useRetractionMinTravel>
<retractionMinTravel>3</retractionMinTravel>
<retractWhileWiping>0</retractWhileWiping>
<onlyWipeOutlines>1</onlyWipeOutlines>
<avoidCrossingOutline>0</avoidCrossingOutline>
<maxMovementDetourFactor>3</maxMovementDetourFactor>
<toolChangeRetractionDistance>12</toolChangeRetractionDistance>
<toolChangeExtraRestartDistance>-0.5</toolChangeExtraRestartDistance>
<toolChangeRetractionSpeed>600</toolChangeRetractionSpeed>
<allowThinWallGapFill>1</allowThinWallGapFill>
<thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage>10</thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage>
<horizontalSizeCompensation>0</horizontalSizeCompensation>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="PLA">
<globalExtruderTemperature>230</globalExtruderTemperature>
<globalBedTemperature>0</globalBedTemperature>
<globalExtrusionMultiplier>0.9</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
<setpoint layer="2" speed="100"/>
</fanSpeed>
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="ABS">
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="PVA">
<globalExtruderTemperature>195</globalExtruderTemperature>
<globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
<globalExtrusionMultiplier>1.0</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
<setpoint layer="2" speed="100"/>
</fanSpeed>
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="Nylon">
<globalExtruderTemperature>220</globalExtruderTemperature>
<globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
<globalExtrusionMultiplier>1.0</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
</fanSpeed>
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureQuality name="Fast">
<layerHeight>0.3</layerHeight>
<topSolidLayers>3</topSolidLayers>
<bottomSolidLayers>3</bottomSolidLayers>
<skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
<infillPercentage>15</infillPercentage>
<supportInfill>25</supportInfill>
</autoConfigureQuality>
<autoConfigureQuality name="Medium">
</autoConfigureQuality>
<autoConfigureQuality name="High">
<layerHeight>0.1</layerHeight>
<topSolidLayers>4</topSolidLayers>
<bottomSolidLayers>4</bottomSolidLayers>
<skirtLayers>2</skirtLayers>
<infillPercentage>30</infillPercentage>
<supportInfill>40</supportInfill>
</autoConfigureQuality>
</profile>
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kabali16
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Blain, The profile is missing a few segments. I also saw that they have split the profile into 3 for each extruder config, which is an unnecessary complication. You can use the Replicator 1 Dual as a base profile and update the Build volume, origin offsets etc and try to create a new profile. I am held up with work right now. I will create a profile for you if I find time this week

P.S. again, the photo is not visible
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brian442
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Also, please just attach the .fff file instead of copy/pasting the contents of the entire thing. That makes it much easier to read through the thread ;)
blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Sorry for the images not coming through and for the extra long code.

I appreciate everyone's help, but unfortunately I had to return the software since I couldn't get it to heat the bed for me and neither KNP3D or Simplify3D had a solution for me at this time. The short 2 week trial period just wasn't long enough for me to get everything up and running.

The software really did look promising, and hopefully as more KNP3D units are sold, someone more knowledgeable in G-Code than myself (absolutely no experience) will be able to get it working properly.

Best Regards,
Blain
tsneidin
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Blain,

I know this is old but I had a similar problem and thought I'd put this out there. In your profile settings I see this:

<GPXconfigOverride>r2</GPXconfigOverride>

I think that is incorrect and should be:

<GPXconfigOverride>r1d</GPXconfigOverride>

This would cause gpx to output the incorrect x3g code. I think this can be fixed in the application by making sure Replicator 1 - dual extruder is selected in the gpx configuration found in Tools -> Firmware Configuration -> X3G. Also, make sure the selected profile is MakerBot/Sailfish firmware.

blain wrote:now, my heated bed settings don't seem to be doing anything.

I have set the bed to 110C within the Temperatures Tab for the Heated Build Platform

Heated Build Platform is selected and I added one setpoint for Layer 1 which I understand should keep the 110C temp during the entire print.

I also have the Nozzle Temp set to 235C for the Right Extruder also with one setpoint for Layer 1 and it does appear to be working correctly.

Am I missing something to get the heated bed to stay heated? I preheated the bed withing the Klic-N-Print onboard controls to 110C but as soon as I started the print it cooled down and is now at around 30C

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Blain
raylo32
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Resurrecting this old thread and trying to put my KnP dual extruder to work. It seems there is no direct S3D profile for this printer and I have always had issues with it. I use a the generic S3D Makerbot Replicator 1 Dual profile and it works, but the scale of the models is off. By just a little, but enough to make the parts unusable. Does anyone have a reliable profile... or at least a reliable selection within the profiles that S3D officially supports?
parallyze
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

raylo32 wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:41 am I use a the generic S3D Makerbot Replicator 1 Dual profile and it works, but the scale of the models is off.
Have you checked the steps per mm?

Tools -> Firmware Configuration -> X3G
x3g_steps_1.JPG
Long time since using replicators, but the genuine ones were a bit different by using
a 17 teeth pulley on the stepper, so the steps for the replicator 1 were quite strange
compared to many clones using 16t/20t pulleys...

The replicator 2 did have different steps/mm settings, too.

Depending on what your printer requires you might be off by ~6-8 steps per mm on
the x/y axis, roughly 6-8%....

Are you using the profile "as it is" or are you using an external gpx.exe to create the
x3g files (Scripts -> Terminal Commands)?

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