blain
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Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Hello all,

I am new to 3d Printing and new to Simplify3d however I have been using Slic3r with no problem.

My problem is when I try to use Simplify3d, it's like it just assumes that the nozzle and bed are already in the correct place because it doesn't move either one when starting to print. It just starts wherever they are at the time. The last print I did, it left the bed way at the bottom and the nozzle way at the top and just started trying to print in air.

I'm using a Klic-n-print 3d which uses the Makerbot sailfish firmware and I have Simplify 3d Set up as such even though my printer was not one of the default options.

I'm assuming there is a setting or something somewhere that is very obvious for some of you, but is hidden very well for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have until the end of the year for my return period and as it stands right now, I just can't justify keeping it until I know it's going to work for me.

Best Regards,
Blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Klic-n-print already has S3D profiles for that printer on their website, so I would start with that instead: https://knp3d.com/klic-n-print-3d-printer-profiles/
blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

CompoundCarl wrote:Klic-n-print already has S3D profiles for that printer on their website, so I would start with that instead: https://knp3d.com/klic-n-print-3d-printer-profiles/
Awesome! Thank you so much. I was aware of the Slic3r profile, but I'm not sure how I missed the Simplify3D profile.
That seems to have done the trick. However it looks like it still needed some tweaking. They had the Z-Axis as being 9" where that should have been the X axis.

I am now able to print with Simplify3D however now it is extruding a blob of filament in the corner before it starts to print. It is warming up in the corner and I will wipe the nozzle, but then it raises the bed up close to the nozzle and extrudes a blob and then drags it into the print area. Any ideas what is causing this?

Best Regards,
Blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

The things the printer does at the beginning of the print are controlled by the starting script. So just go to the Scripts tab of your process settings and make whatever changes you want there
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

blain wrote:
I am now able to print with Simplify3D however now it is extruding a blob of filament in the corner before it starts to print. It is warming up in the corner and I will wipe the nozzle, but then it raises the bed up close to the nozzle and extrudes a blob and then drags it into the print area. Any ideas what is causing this?

Best Regards,
Blain
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blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Thanks for all the replies.

I read something about the bed plate size not being correct because the nozzle does a "wipe" at the side of the plate, but I entered the plate dimensions and it still is going on the corner of the plate and then it's actually dragging the extrusion across the plate as it moves towards the actual start point.

I have started to put a piece of paper under the nozzle and basically wiping the nozzle as it extrudes the filament, but even once it starts printing, it just isn't doing a good job. It barely lays anything down and once it does it just doesn't look good. If I switch to Slic3r it does great.

Here is my starting script. Hopefully this will tell someone something. Unfortunately it doesn't mean much to me.

Thank you,
Blain

; **** Replicator 1 dual start.gcode ****
M73 P0 ; enable build progress
G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum
G161 Z F1200 ; home Z minimum
G92 Z-5 ; set Z to -5
G1 Z0 ; move Z to 0
G161 Z F100 ; home Z slowly
M132 X Y Z A B ; recall home offsets
M135 T0 ; load right extruder offsets
G1 X-110 Y-70 Z30 F9000 ; move to wait position off table
G130 X20 Y20 Z20 A20 B20 ; lower stepper Vrefs while heating
M126 S[fan_speed_pwm]
M140 S[bed0_temperature] T0
M134 T0 ; stabilize bed temperature
M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T0
M133 T0 ; stabilize extruder temperature
G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs
G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders
G1 Z0.4 ; position nozzle
G1 E25 F300 ; purge nozzle
G1 X-95 Y-65 Z0.15 F1200 ; slow wipe
G1 X-95 Y-60 Z0.5 F1200 ; lift
G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders
M73 P1 ;@body (notify GPX body has started)
; **** end of start.gcode ****
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

There is a script available for FF Creator Pro that doesnt blob, I am just using this as a reference -> viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6183&p=26817#p26817

In your starting script, Do you see those G1 commands with XY coordinates and E values, they are the ones doing the movement and extrusions. So, you basically need to modify them. It looks like your script is for for the Right Extruder Only config. I have modified them to do a full wipe line. Copy paste this and give it a shot.. (Highlighted are the changes made)

; **** Replicator 1 dual start.gcode ****
M73 P0 ; enable build progress
G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum
G161 Z F1200 ; home Z minimum
G92 Z-5 ; set Z to -5
G1 Z0 ; move Z to 0
G161 Z F100 ; home Z slowly
M132 X Y Z A B ; recall home offsets
M135 T0 ; load right extruder offsets
G1 X-110 Y-70 Z30 F9000 ; move to wait position off table
G130 X20 Y20 Z20 A20 B20 ; lower stepper Vrefs while heating
M126 S[fan_speed_pwm]
M140 S[bed0_temperature] T0
M134 T0 ; stabilize bed temperature
M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T0
M133 T0 ; stabilize extruder temperature
G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs
G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders
G1 Z0.3 ; position nozzle
G1 Y-65 F1200 ; move to prime start
G1 X90 E25 F1200 ; prime nozzle
G1 X100 F180 ; Wait for ooze
G1 X110 F5000 ; Fast wipe
G1 Z0.5 F1000 ; Lift

G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders
M73 P1 ;@body (notify GPX body has started)
; **** end of start.gcode ****
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blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

Thank you very much! That is much better.
Now instead of squirting a blob and then dragging it towards the print area, it is at least printing it in a straight line down the x axis which should hopefully be out of the way unless I print a large piece.

The only other problem I see now is that it is printing the apron in layers with the part rather than printing the entire apron first and then moving to the part.
It prints the first layer of the apron and then the first layer of the part and then the second layer of the apron and then finishes the part. It also is not printing the apron very well.

The part itself came out good though, I think.

I have included a picture that shows the guitar pick with the apron around it.

I apologize if the pic doesn't come through. If not, I will try again.

Image
blain
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

The image doesn't appear to be working. I'll post a link to the image and hopefully this will work..https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipO ... JusOWkehD3
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Re: Need help with Klic-N-Print 3D printer

first image link broken, second returns 404 error. Try imgur or pastebin
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