Inconsistent behaviour

phil123456 · Fri May 12, 2017 3:39 pm

Hi,

I keep having the worst experience ever since a couple of weeks, when I print (either usb or sd card) the preheating does only happen for the bed
it never turn on left extruder and sometimes does not even turn on the bed

I could force preheating for bed and extruder before, then print from sd card but for a couple of days, it does not work anymore

as soon as I print the (S3D) generated file form sd or I print from sd in the S3D printer window, it turns off both bed and extruders

no matter if I set T0 or T1 for the left extruder does not help, it is also far from clear how the f... does S3D knows which extruder definition is related to which physical extruder

I really need help on this, I dont know wtf is going on and I been losing serious amount of time so far , it is really getting on my nervs to say the least

PLEASE HELP !!!

let me know what info you need to solve this issue

thanks

pixel3design · Sat May 13, 2017 5:14 am

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phil123456 · Sat May 13, 2017 11:16 am

I went back to right extruder and it works
I am in a long print, so once it's done I'll do the export

(man, that save draft button is so in the f... way, why is it the first button with the same color as the other ones)

phil123456 · Sat May 13, 2017 3:12 pm

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    <skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
    <infillPercentage>20</infillPercentage>
    <supportInfillPercentage>30</supportInfillPercentage>
  </autoConfigureQuality>
  <autoConfigureQuality name="High">
    <layerHeight>0.2</layerHeight>
    <topSolidLayers>6</topSolidLayers>
    <bottomSolidLayers>4</bottomSolidLayers>
    <skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
    <infillPercentage>30</infillPercentage>
    <supportInfillPercentage>20</supportInfillPercentage>
  </autoConfigureQuality>
  <autoConfigureExtruders name="Right Extruder Only" allowedToolheads="1">
    <primaryExtruder>0</primaryExtruder>
    <raftExtruder>0</raftExtruder>
    <skirtExtruder>0</skirtExtruder>
    <infillExtruder>0</infillExtruder>
    <supportExtruder>0</supportExtruder>
    <useSkirt>0</useSkirt>
    <usePrimePillar>0</usePrimePillar>
    <useOozeShield>0</useOozeShield>
    <toggleTemperatureController name="Right Extruder" status="off" stabilize="on"/>
    <toggleTemperatureController name="Left Extruder" status="on" stabilize="on"/>
    <startingGcode>; **** Replicator 1 dual start.gcode ****,M73 P0 ; enable build progress,G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum,G161 Z F1200 ; home Z minimum,G92 Z-5 ; set Z to -5,G1 Z0 ; move Z to 0,G161 Z F100 ; home Z slowly,M132 X Y Z A B ; recall home offsets,M135 T0 ; load right extruder offsets,G1 X150 Y-70 Z30 F9000 ; move to wait position right hand side of the table,G130 X20 Y20 Z20 A20 B20 ; lower stepper Vrefs while heating,M126 S[fan_speed_pwm],M140 S[bed0_temperature] T2,M134 T0 ; stabilize bed temperature,M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T2,M133 T0 ; stabilize right extruder temperature,G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,G1 Z0.4 ; position nozzle,G1 X110 Y-70 E25 F300 ; purge nozzle,G1 X120 Y-70 Z0.15 F1200 ; slow wipe,G1 X110 Y-70 Z0.5 F1200 ; lift,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,M73 P1 ;@body (notify GPX body has started),; **** end of start.gcode ****</startingGcode>
  </autoConfigureExtruders>
  <autoConfigureExtruders name="Left Extruder Only" allowedToolheads="1">
    <primaryExtruder>1</primaryExtruder>
    <raftExtruder>1</raftExtruder>
    <skirtExtruder>1</skirtExtruder>
    <infillExtruder>1</infillExtruder>
    <supportExtruder>1</supportExtruder>
    <useSkirt>1</useSkirt>
    <usePrimePillar>0</usePrimePillar>
    <useOozeShield>0</useOozeShield>
    <toggleTemperatureController name="Right Extruder" status="off" stabilize="off"/>
    <toggleTemperatureController name="Left Extruder" status="on" stabilize="on"/>
    <startingGcode>; **** Replicator 1 dual start.gcode ****,M73 P0 ; enable build progress,G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum,G161 Z F1200 ; home Z minimum,G92 Z-5 ; set Z to -5,G1 Z0 ; move Z to 0,G161 Z F100 ; home Z slowly,M132 X Y Z A B ; recall home offsets,M135 T0 ; load right extruder offsets,G1 X150 Y-70 Z30 F9000 ; move to wait position right hand side of the table,G130 X20 Y20 Z20 A20 B20 ; lower stepper Vrefs while heating,M126 S[fan_speed_pwm],M140 S[bed0_temperature] T0,M134 T0 ; stabilize bed temperature,M104 S[extruder1_temperature] T1,M133 T1 ; stabilize left extruder temperature,G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,G1 Z0.4 ; position nozzle,M135 T1 ; left tool,G1 X110 Y-70 E30 F300 ; move nozzle,G1 X120 Y-70 Z0.15 F1200 ; slow wipe,G1 X110 Y-70 Z0.5 F1200 ; lift,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,M73 P1 ;@body (notify GPX body has started),; **** end of start.gcode ****</startingGcode>
  </autoConfigureExtruders>
  <autoConfigureExtruders name="Both Extruders" allowedToolheads="2">
    <primaryExtruder>1</primaryExtruder>
    <raftExtruder>0</raftExtruder>
    <skirtExtruder>0</skirtExtruder>
    <infillExtruder>1</infillExtruder>
    <supportExtruder>1</supportExtruder>
    <useSkirt>0</useSkirt>
    <usePrimePillar>0</usePrimePillar>
    <useOozeShield>1</useOozeShield>
    <toggleTemperatureController name="Right Extruder" status="on" stabilize="on"/>
    <toggleTemperatureController name="Left Extruder" status="on" stabilize="on"/>
    <startingGcode>; **** Replicator 1 dual start.gcode ****,M73 P0 ; enable build progress,G162 X Y F3000 ; home XY maximum,G161 Z F1200 ; home Z minimum,G92 Z-5 ; set Z to -5,G1 Z0 ; move Z to 0,G161 Z F100 ; home Z slowly,M132 X Y Z A B ; recall home offsets,M135 T0 ; load right extruder offsets,G1 X150 Y-70 Z30 F9000 ; move to wait position right hand side of the table,G130 X20 Y20 Z20 A20 B20 ; lower stepper Vrefs while heating,M126 S[fan_speed_pwm],M140 S[bed0_temperature] T0,M134 T0 ; stabilize bed temperature,M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T0,M104 S[extruder1_temperature] T1,M133 T0 ; stabilize right extruder temperature,M133 T1 ; stabilize left extruder temperature,G130 X127 Y127 Z40 A127 B127 ; default stepper Vrefs,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,G1 Z0.4 ; position nozzle,G1 X110 Y-70 E25 F300 ; purge nozzle,M135 T1; left tool,G1 X120 Y-70 E25 F300; purge nozzle,M135 T0; right tool,G1 X120 Y-70 Z0.15 F1200 ; slow wipe,G1 X110 Y-70 Z0.5 F1200 ; lift,G92 A0 B0 ; zero extruders,M73 P1 ;@body (notify GPX body has started),; **** end of start.gcode ****</startingGcode>
  </autoConfigureExtruders>
  <autoConfigureMaterial name="NinjaFlex">
    <extruder name="Right Extruder">
      <toolheadNumber>0</toolheadNumber>
      <diameter>0.4</diameter>
      <autoWidth>0</autoWidth>
      <width>0.4</width>
      <extrusionMultiplier>1</extrusionMultiplier>
      <useRetract>0</useRetract>
      <retractionDistance>1</retractionDistance>
      <extraRestartDistance>0</extraRestartDistance>
      <retractionZLift>0</retractionZLift>
      <retractionSpeed>1200</retractionSpeed>
      <useCoasting>0</useCoasting>
      <coastingDistance>0.2</coastingDistance>
      <useWipe>0</useWipe>
      <wipeDistance>5</wipeDistance>
    </extruder>
    <extruder name="Left Extruder">
      <toolheadNumber>1</toolheadNumber>
      <diameter>0.4</diameter>
      <autoWidth>1</autoWidth>
      <width>0.48</width>
      <extrusionMultiplier>1</extrusionMultiplier>
      <useRetract>0</useRetract>
      <retractionDistance>1</retractionDistance>
      <extraRestartDistance>0</extraRestartDistance>
      <retractionZLift>0</retractionZLift>
      <retractionSpeed>1200</retractionSpeed>
      <useCoasting>0</useCoasting>
      <coastingDistance>0.2</coastingDistance>
      <useWipe>0</useWipe>
      <wipeDistance>5</wipeDistance>
    </extruder>
    <temperatureController name="Right Extruder">
      <temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
      <isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
      <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
      <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
      <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
      <setpoint layer="1" temperature="240"/>
    </temperatureController>
    <temperatureController name="Left Extruder">
      <temperatureNumber>1</temperatureNumber>
      <isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
      <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
      <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
      <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
      <setpoint layer="1" temperature="240"/>
    </temperatureController>
    <temperatureController name="Heated Build Platform">
      <temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
      <isHeatedBed>1</isHeatedBed>
      <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
      <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
      <stabilizeAtStartup>0</stabilizeAtStartup>
      <setpoint layer="1" temperature="110"/>
    </temperatureController>
    <fanSpeed>
      <setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
      <setpoint layer="2" speed="10"/>
    </fanSpeed>
  </autoConfigureMaterial>
</profile>

phil123456 · Sat May 20, 2017 2:37 am

hello ?

MasterFX · Sat May 20, 2017 6:57 am

Hard to read you fff as quoted text. The FFF-File as appendix would be better.

But as far as I can see in your starting gcode it seems like you have selected the wrong Temperature Identifyer "M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T2". I think it must be T0 for right and T1 for left?

Try to create a new printer profile to get rid of the wrong settings

phil123456 · Sat May 20, 2017 12:18 pm

there is no choice wwhen I do an export, it's just an XML, nothing easier to read in the universe

I only have T0 and T1 selected in the gui

I'll try indeed to create another profile

thanks

MasterFX · Sat May 20, 2017 2:42 pm

phil123456 wrote:there is no choice wwhen I do an export, it's just an XML, nothing easier to read in the universe

Ahh Ok, you exported the FFF. Anyway it it easyer to let us chose what editor we use to read, so we don't have to search on a 50cm long page...
The factory file is more like just a xml.... in a factory file everthing, including the model is inside. Then upload via "Upload attachment"

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